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Bush says budget is done

mac_0.JPG(CNS): The Cayman government has gone as far as it can, the premier has said in connection with this year’s budget and the proposed "expat tax", despite indications from the governor that the budget negotiations are not finished and in the face of protests from across the community, including Caymanians. A memo circulated to civil servants the morning after the premier’s announcement that he would be taking 10% off work permit holders' income and making civil servants pay for health insurance and pensions also indicated that officials were still working on the government’s spending plans and proposals were still being developed.

The introduction of an expat tax, however,  has shocked the community. Following the announcement bloggers on CNS broke all records when they posted over 800 comments on the first news report about the issue within the first 24 hours. A Facebook page was also created by a local work-permit holder which has now garnered over 9,000 members, who plan to protest at Bush’s public meeting on Monday evening. 

Although the tax is aimed at foreign workers, many Caymanians are also outraged at the proposal, not just because they recognise the impact it could have on the economy overall and the unique nature of Cayman but because they are aware that Opposition Leader Alden McLaughlin’s comments regarding this tax being the “thin end of the wedge” are correct and they are also at risk.

McKeeva Bush denied this when he took to the airwaves again on Thursday evening with another statement in the face of the national backlash against his proposal. He said McLaughlin was misleading the public about the tax (which Bush continues to call a ‘community enhancement fee’) when he suggested it could be extended to Caymanians.

“Everyone knows that I rejected VAT, income and property tax and payroll taxes across the board in 2009. I still do,” he said despite the proposed introduction of an expat payroll tax. “His suggestion is nothing but him trying to gain points from this situation, this financial mess with the FCO in control, that he created,” Bush added.

However, the premier failed to point out that the reason why the FCO is still having to approve the CIG’s budgets three years after the PPM administration broke the parameters of the Public Management and Finance Law is because the UDP government has continued to borrow and has not presented a genuine surplus budget, despite promising to do so. If Bush had presented a budget without a borrowing requirement ,either long or short term (including the overdraft), the FCO would not have needed to approve it.

But because Bush’s final budget in his role as minister of finance still contained both long and short term borrowing, the first spending plan was rejected. The premier now says it is the FCO that is forcing him to introduce a new source of taxation, a point denied by sources in the UK. Bush has also denied having any plans to target Caymanians in the new income tax proposal.

“If I had any intention to hit Caymanians harder than they are being hit already, I would have included them in this proposal,” Bush said on Thursday night in face of the most widespread opposition to anything he has ever suggested. “They are not included – for all the reasons I have stated many times. A VAT tax would be disastrous for these islands, so would property tax.’”

Bush will be holding a meeting this evening at the Mary Miller Hall in Red Bay to talk about the proposal at 7pm.

See Bush's statement below and civil service memo.

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Premier's response to governor's statement on taxes.doc26 KB

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I've contacted Mr. Henry

I've contacted Mr. Henry Bellingham and have gotten this response from his P.A.

The following e-mail address: PSBellingham@fco.gov.uk is the correct address for Mr. Bellingham at the Foreign & Commonwealth Office.

Share with him your ideas and concerns.  Make it known that something must be done!!

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I have an idea to balance the

I have an idea to balance the budget. Lets start a one man circus starring Mr. Bush. At $25 admission for tourists, $15 for expats, and the special price of $10.00 for Caymanians we could be reporting a surplus in three months. We could feed him on expired mou's and enjoy various shows by playing recordings of the names Ezzard, Mr Dart, Stan Thomas, Mr. Ryan, Aunt Sookie, Mr Bellingham, Mr, Swarbrick, CNS, FOI, and the opposition. Rewarding him with chinese sweets and extra pensions would also guarantee crowd pleasing performances.

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Canda collect 40% of your

Canda collect 40% of your salary! How about going there instead? And not to mention USA lol!
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OK, I'm in Canada and earn a

OK, I'm in Canada and earn a reasonable amount of money (mid range of 6 figures), and I don't pay 40% - my overall effective tax rate is about 26%.  Canada has a graduating tax that goes up in percentage depending on what you earn, starting at 0% and going to the highest rate of 39% for earnings over about $128,000.  The first segments are much less, so the overall effect is rather lower than what you say, plus there are a lot of helpful deductions and strategies (lawful) to trim that back.  For all that we get literally world class free services like health and education, and my money stays in my pocket for that.  That and my dictator has a better sense of humour than yours.

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As has been stated many times

As has been stated many times on this forum, taxpayers in Canada, and to a lesser extent, the US, receive real services for monies paid to government, not limited to health care (Canada), free education and unemployment insurance. Very different situation. I already pay nearly ten thousand dollars a year to send one child to school and several hundred dollars per month for health insurance, and my employer pays a healthy fee to government for my work permit. I also pay the same hidden duties as you on everything i buy on island. I would not mind paying a ten percent tax to help the local economy if it were not being administered with so little foresight by an inept govrrnment who will only waste it on projects not supported by most Caymanians anyway.
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You really don't get it do

You really don't get it do you?

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Really? Good grief. Firstly,

Really? Good grief. Firstly, in the US low income citizens basically end up paying little to no tax at the end of the day. 20K could and would be low income/ poverty level. And secondly, .......... Nah, forget it. I'm tired of trying to get posters like you too see the truth. Go read a newspaper or get a copy of Politics or Government for Dummies.
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Not to worry my friends. The

Not to worry my friends. The government couldn't even collect garbage fees so they scrapped it. Enforcing this tax will be an insurmountable task for the CI government. After all, it has been years since they were able to produce their own financial accounts for the CS, so the thought that they would be able to manage this huge tax system is laughable.
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Menace to society Capable

Menace to society

Capable of

Knocking-down and destroying

Everything Cayman has stood for since King George III proclaimed us tax free. He has now

Embarrassed the islands, citizens, and residents alike, with his

Very uneducated and

Asinine ideas.

 

For the Love of God, RESIGN.

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it's bout time that

it's bout time that non-caymanian give back to the island. In the past millions or should i say billions have been sent out the country by expats, they only come to cayman to squeeze as much as they can out of cayman and then go back home and live like a king, why we the locals have to live with the left overs. I am born and rised caymanian and I am happy that the government realize that the expats was getting away with murder.
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This is a really interesting

This is a really interesting comment. In the fifties and sixties Caymanians were employed at sea but spent many days working not just at sea but in other countries. They sent their monies home to sustain their families and to commence building homes that frequently took months and years to complete. This was the way of the day and they should be proud of their achievements. Now Caymanian 16.29 you have a problem with non Caymanians sending money home. Well my friend have a good hard think about the stupidity of your remark and withdraw it. We will forgive you.
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I was brought up in Eton,

I was brought up in Eton, this person was eaten and brought up!

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yeah damn those expats for

yeah damn those expats for coming here and bringing business, spending money on island and rentin your slumlord apartments.  I thougth that attitude was gone but I guess there are still a few of you in the trees.

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It will be much worse for you

It will be much worse for you if this tax goes through. Think about it for a minute without hate...and without politics. This will remove a significant amount of money from the island. This will reduce rental incomes... This will give money to govt,, that would have been spent elsewhere... When have you ever seen any govt. Be more effective then the private sector? Um.... NEVER, in any country.
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Personally I think it is time

Personally I think it is time for Caymanians to give back to Cayman rather than the take take take. Free healthcare, free pensions, free fuel, free fridges and ovens, free paving of driveways, paying no duty at customs, free education, free flights on Cayman airways

The list of freeby's goes on and you contirbute nothing.

If it wasn't for all the work permit fees from those expats, Cayma would have been broke long ago.

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Born, but not raised

Born, but not raised properly.

 

 

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what do you think is the

what do you think is the purpose of a work permit? where do you think that money goes???

you think the money made here came from here? we exist because of companies investing here.  your mentality would suggest that that money doesn't belong to us and we should be giving back to the US..etc. for giving us business.  but then when Obama wants to searchout illagal accounts here, everyone wants to cry about it.

i am a born and raised caymanian too, and people will leave if this tax is implemented. only then will you even realise what the term "leftovers" can really mean.

why the hell are so many caymanians so IGNORANT.  we all need each other to keep this place going.  ingnorance is hurting YOU more than anything

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Yes, but when they leave and

Yes, but when they leave and a lot will, where will that "give back" money come from? ps I left the island and glad that I did.

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Ummm okay - one of the

Ummm okay - one of the dumbest posts EVER.

Billions being sent to Jamaica? Philippines?

Most people keep their money here to avoid taxes in OFF SHORE ACCOUNTS.

Go rent The Firm.

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Is the Firm really your

Is the Firm really your source of information of what happens in Cayman? lol. 

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You would probably find out

You would probably find out that money is sent overseas to support their families and because they know that they  will be rolled over after 7yrs.

Those might be two glaringly obvious factors but clearly you live in La Lal Land wiith Mac.

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Good Lord!!!!  This is THE

Good Lord!!!!  This is THE MINISTER OF FINANCE!!!!  What do you mean you cannot put together a budget!!!!!!  If it is so far beyond your meger capabilities, remove yourself from the position and allow someone who can do it to take the job.  But wait a minute, they may not okay my Nation Building Fund or my bulk television order....

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He did his best...didn't pay

He did his best...didn't pay bills for the last two months of the fiscal year...what minister of finance can do better?  Sure they paved an entire ilsand, jetsetted like a rock star everytime that donkey faces Auditor General used one of dem big words, paid millions in penalties so he could get HIS contracter in for port, sent everyone on international gala including cell phone conventions in europe and gambling in Panama.

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If this goes through there

If this goes through there will be an exodus of Expats. Expats that are needed. Yes I am Caymanian. There will be increased fees in the financial sector, again. The property prices have stopped increasing ever since the roll over. This will be a death blow to the financial and property markets. At least we will still have tourism...oh wait the million plus crisis ship visitors will be gone because our inability to build some frickin docks. How hard is it to implement some sensible solutions rather than nothing for 3 years, no cuts to spending and now a hail Mary? Mac you are a joke. The opposition has come up with no solutions, they just sit their silently with their thumbs up their a$$. Pathetic. Government is a joke. Lining their pockets and screwing Cayman. Caymanians complainimg about expats. They took our jobs! Give me a f$$king break...you sit at your padded government job with your thumb up your a$$ gossiping all day and not doing anything. You are guilty of doing nothing to help your country. You don't love Cayman XXXX! If this actually goes through Cayman is done. This is so sad and so preventable if our leaders would grow a pair! We need some REAL LEADERSHIP! Get Mac out and new blood in!

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This has to be the best post

This has to be the best post I've read on here in a long time.  I salute you poster.

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McKeeva is a political genius

McKeeva is a political genius and Alden, Ezzard, and all their cronies are  scared stiff of that man.

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There ain't much funny about

There ain't much funny about what's going on here, but you got a laugh out of me for that one, that's for sure.

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And no doubt you are a genius

And no doubt you are a genius too!!!

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I'm more scared of what he is

I'm more scared of what he is doing to Cayman and how much more we have to endure.

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They, as well as every human

They, as well as every human being on the face of this earth, have every right to be.

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Cayman's Government (PPM /

Cayman's Government (PPM / UDP) over the Years:  Borrow / Spending / Borrow / Spending / Borrow / Spending / Stop..... 2012 and onwards:  Tax / Spend / Tax /  Spend / Tax / Spend / Tax / Spend...... a new era 

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Bush says budget is done. 

Bush says budget is done.  People say Bush is done.  We all say Cayman is done.

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Colour me confused.  Bush

Colour me confused.  Bush says the budget is done, FCO says they await budget detail.  Presumably everyone sits around twiddling their thumbs until the money runs out end of August?  Who will blink first?

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I can't do that it's someone

I can't do that it's someone else's responsibility. I didn't do that because it's someone else's fault. Look at my record so far. I've done all I can!! Without doing anything. Is that my fault???.

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The budget is not done,

The budget is not done, Cayman is done.

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We nah done we got dart !

We nah done we got dart !

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When HE'S finished with us we

When HE'S finished with us we will most certainly be done.

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More like Dart got us... by

More like Dart got us... by the b@lls.
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Poor McKeeva; he simply does

Poor McKeeva; he simply does not know what he does not know. The same applies to the people who vote for him.

 

The only hope for Cayman is a new generation of leaders, hopefully competent and ethical.

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Yeah and I just saw a

Yeah and I just saw a squadron of pigs flying across West Bay.

LOL, when the Premier's concept of finance seems (and for obvious legal reasons I stress SEEMS) to many observers to be based on the concept of, "Two for me, one for you," there doesn't appear to be much chance of any budget being 'done' to the satisfaction of the UK government in the foreseeable future.

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I pay 12k in work visa fees

I pay 12k in work visa fees for the privilege of working from home on the internet.... if the government thinks I will continue to pay them this fee on top of this tax good luck to them. I inquired about residency in Panama  and I am sure I am not the only gringo from Cayman who contacted them this weekend.

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Cayman Airways now have

Cayman Airways now have direct flights to Panama - Have a nice flight!

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Enjoy Panama then.

Enjoy Panama then.

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To have a tax so to prevent

To have a tax so to prevent my family from losing their government jobs - hell ya!  I support the Premier 100%  Cayman will still grow and continue. It so before and will always do. Those who love us, will stick around.

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Those who love us will stick

Those who love us will stick around? What reason are expatriates being given to love us exactly? Our discrimination against them? This proposal to tax only them, which makes parasites of us? Our government's ineptitude, which creates instability, uncertainty and a great deal of risk for all who might choosevto come here? Or perhaps the growing expanses of concrete spreading over our once beautiful island, and the shady deals allowing developers to put it there? Ten years ago, they had plenty of reasons to love us. Now?
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Ground control to Major Tom?

Ground control to Major Tom?

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stick around and pay money to

stick around and pay money to a country that potentially will ask them to leave after 7 or 10 years, no rights, not being able to vote and never being accepted by Cayman?

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You and many others and

You and many others and simply deluded.

Cayman is f**ked, up the creek and with no paddle.

A Caymanian.

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Earth to you.... Earth to

Earth to you.... Earth to you!
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I think our leader just talks

I think our leader just talks the talk.  He nah walk the walk.  All he got is our vote, but he nah be gettin mine agin.

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