GT seals 'Yes' majority
Posted on Wed, 07/18/2012 - 23:41 in Politics
(CNS): Despite the fact that the majority of people who came out to the polls on Wednesday to vote in the national referendum on one man, one vote voted in favour, the national poll has fallen short of the high bar set by government. In the capital electors voted well over two to one in favour, with 2,360 voting 'yes' and 993 voting 'no'. Although some 5,631 of voters overall polled in favour of changing the electoral system from multi-member constituencies with multiple voting to single member constituencies and OMOV, the premier has said he will not be swayed by a majority that falls short of 50% plus one of the entire electorate.
The count was completed by 11:30 on Wednesday evening with the results from the country's largest district coming in last.
At the final count 37% voted for OMOV and less than 20% against, but with over 33% failing to turn out at the polls, the referendum will not carry.
Results for OMOV national referendum
National vote: 'yes' = 5631, 'no' = 3,001
CBLC: yes - 256, no - 203
East End: yes - 257, no - 79
North Side: yes - 335, no - 56
West Bay: yes - 1027, no - 1053
Bodden Town: yes - 1396, no - 617
George Town: yes - 2360, no - 993
Check back to CNS tomorrow for more on the historic referendum and what this means for the May 2013 election
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In the May 2009 elections
In the May 2009 elections Mike Adam received 2110 votes, and Ellio Solomon received 1845 votes.
Last night 2360 George Town voters told them that they did not agree with the message they were preaching. When will they start to pay attention to the voters? Do they think that we have short memories?
In 2009, the voters in GT
In 2009, the voters in GT that voted for Mike Adam and Ellio Solomon were obviously voters out of the group of approximately 3,500 remaining (GT has a total of approximately 6,000 voters) who obviously did not vote on Wednesday. Please get some tutoring to brush up on your math. And while you are on your way to smith road and Pasadora place, do stop and tell the PPM and others we will be coming out in force in 2013. So do not count your chickens just yet!!!
Burn Notice. You
Burn Notice.
You said!
" You do realise people that your comments on here, complete with pre-school spelling and grammar, can be read around the world, right?"
Well, I have found a couple of things you may want to look at in your rant about us Caymanians.
"get off our fat, lazy, apothetic Caymanian asses"
You spelt apathetic wrong! Its not apothetic.
"less corrupt, and more compationate government for a bit."
Compassionate not compationate,
Just thought I would clear some things up from a grade 8 spelling level.
Thank you" get bun up", at
Thank you" get bun up", at least you didn't discrminate this person's lack of a level of education.
Yes we do have people here with Pre-school level of education. What you have to understand, Cayman is very young in the development stage.... coming from a fishing village just 40 years ago.
Just for clarity, I have read blogs in the UK tabloids, and found many grammatic mistakes and spellings.
Thank you for pointing out these areas, maybe that person will check his spelling first. Myself hated school back then... in the 60s, but Im a self learner myself.
What a complete, utter and
What a complete, utter and total farce and joke this whole situation, and country is. You do realise people that your comments on here, complete with pre-school spelling and grammar, can be read around the world, right?
If the great saviour that is Mac E Warrr makes the rules for a referendum, it is not a referendum, it is a sham. If we cannot all be bothered to get off our fat, lazy, apothetic Caymanian asses and actually do something, then we shouldn't waste time on here bitching. Cayman, we have shown ourselves to be pathetic in front of the world, and we shall continue to do so. The 'new breed' of Cayman don't want to change things, they just want to change who pockets the cash.
The referendum result is not binding? FFS, you idiots need to wake up. Why don't you all go to Syria for a few weeks to experience some better, less corrupt, and more compationate government for a bit.
Joke.
Did you realize that your
Did you realize that your posting will be seen around the world?
Not a joke!
About 1/3 of all registered
About 1/3 of all registered voters voted Yes, why then should the government acknowledge them when 2/3 stayed home and voted No?
A real donkey face.
A real donkey face.
if you stayed home you didn't
if you stayed home you didn't vote!
is it fair that people who stay at home on a day off work and don't vote now hold the balance of power????
just another day in wonderland....
Very unfortunately for
Very unfortunately for Cayman, your question cannot be answered until next May.
The way an election works is
The way an election works is this. All voters have an opportunity to cast a vote if the issue is important enough to the to take the time and effort to do so. By not voting those people are saying, I do not care it does not matter to me. Hence the decision is left up to those that do care and those that do vote 2 to 1 YES. Plain and simple.
Mac has never cared about what the pople think and by him refusing to acknowledge that the people in a national election voted 2 to 1 for OMOV and to ignore it is like ringing his own death knell as politician.The people will only go unheard for so long. He and his legal "vessel" can put all the spin on this they want. The people know the truth.
As does the UK.
Its a sad day for these
Its a sad day for these islands. Without a U.K intervention initiated by the Govenor we are on the path of independence and an increase in political risks for international investors once the link between these islands and the UK has been severed. A very very sad day indeed!
If Cayman ever goes
If Cayman ever goes independent this place with be a ghost town as all the expats / investors will pull out.
So PPM did not only got us
So PPM did not only got us into a deficit, but tried very hard to divide Cayman up into 18 parts. I just wonder their plans for our economy. Strangely you hear nothing about their plans. Maybe they don't have a plan.
"did not only got" is not a
"did not only got" is not a part of the English language. Try going to school to learn to write. And while you're at it, try learning to write something with sense.
What's your plan?
What's your plan?
You know what made people
You know what made people disenfranchised and apathetic about coming out.. They are tired of the fighting between the UDP, PPM and Ezzard and when you through in the political "wanna be's" from OMOV it is just a fight about who gets to carry the big stick.
This was not about Country, if it was, Caymanians aren't fools, they would have come out an voted in mass. Like me, they stayed home and stayed with the status quo because at least we have many years of knowing that it actually works.
For the record, I don't really have anything against OMOV, I just don't believe in splitting Cayman up in little districts. It serves no purpose and will not make any representative any more accountable.
Ezzard shouts about how many meetings he has with his people but does he get anything done politically for his country other than a few little things here and there for his district. How does that help me in George Town? Did he do this when he was previously elected? Ask NorthSiders if he did and how many meeting he held? They voted him out and put Edna in so he couldn't have been doing such a good job? The point I am trying to make is not to make these bunch of politicians from whatever party or group they come from tell you that they are going to work harder for you if they get elected? History has continued to prove us wrong in that regard, be it in single member constituencies like North Side or multimember ones like George Town. You can't change people folks, you have to take them for what they are.
Amen , well said..a leopard
Amen , well said..a leopard does not change his spots..
I can kiss for feet for the
I can kiss for feet for the comment you made
Rather you than me.
Rather you than me.
What will be interesting to
What will be interesting to see is if in the next election that those that voted for OMOV in multi member districts will only cast one vote...That may be a true test of the system..
If everyone just voted once we would have a different situation, wouldn't we? Don't think it will happen though!
If we only cast one vote will
If we only cast one vote will the three others go to McKeeva? :(
08:11 poster- you have hit
08:11 poster- you have hit the nail on its head. This is most definately not a clear or resounding victory for either side, but as supporters of the YES vote, we can take comfort that our vote was the most popular. Not sure who you are BUT your an individual of brilliance and knowledge.
There were a few things wrong
There were a few things wrong at the Voting booths yesterday:
Despite having ample security and elections office personnel, vandals were allowed to mark up signs - how does this happen?
There were names of persons who have been dead for years on the voter list - how does this happen?
There were voters, who participated in the last election, who showed up to vote but their name was not on the list - how does this happen?
There were voters, who participated in the last election, who showed up at the polling station only to find that their name had already been crossed off the list, but they had not voted yet - how does this happen?
Mr. Supervisor, what kind of operation are you running????? XXXX
5631 YES to 3001 No - the
5631 YES to 3001 No - the people have said yes:
UDP will commit politicial suicide to ignore the express wishes of the people! Are they insane?....
never mind!
This blithering is
This blithering is nauseating. If you desire other leadership, then democratically elect someone else next election. Its that easy. Obviously, many prefer Mac's leadership because they voted in his party.
If you want Ezzrd in charge, then Ezzard should endeavor to put together an electable group of like-minded individuals and fully contest the next election.
Your almost one sided banter is so annoying. We have an election folks, where candidates are popularily chosen.
National total stands at 5631
National total stands at 5631 yes, 3001 voted no, 45 spoiled, 6,484 no by no show. Total NO votes is therefore 9,485. A resounding No.
What about the people
What about the people eligible to vote who haven't signed up to vote yet. Shouldn't they be counted as NO votes as well? LOL.
If you place a ballot in the
If you place a ballot in the box without any markings on it then it is a SPOILED ballot. Not showing up is the same as not marking your ballot, so no-shows should really be counted as spoiled ballots.
R u dum?
R u dum?
You idiot, you cannot count
You idiot, you cannot count or assume that complacent no shows are a no vote because they abstainted from voting and their vote therefore cannot be counted.
Two idiots on an island the
Two idiots on an island the size of Cayman is definitely not good. Both him and McKeeva are counting non votes and calling them votes. How dumb can two people possibly be? Oh wait, we have about three thousand dummies here too, right?
Thank you GT, BT, CB/LC &
Thank you GT, BT, CB/LC & WB. WB it was a pleasure to see that you are awaken. Thank God there are still some honest, respectable and understandable persons in the district of WB. Its obvious that you are not part of the group living in McKeeva's and Dart pockets. Hopefully, by May 2013 a lot more will awaken and they will execise their democratic right and make that change in WB. Yesterday, was just a process, grant it we did not make the numbers needed to get the refrendum passed, but we sure as hell sent a strong message. To those of you, who though by staying home, you were accomplishing something, you did! You did NOT exercise your democratic rights to vote in your own Country, maybe it was because you were misled by McKeeva and the UDP, disenfranchised by Politicians or just plain lazy, whatever the reason, you have failed miserably and you may just hurt yourselves in the long run. Voting gives the people a voice in their own country.....we are talking about country "yes", NOT party, Team or McKeeva....We are talking Country...Bo Bo.
"WB it was a pleasure to see
"WB it was a pleasure to see that you are awaken". A lot of WBayers are "awaken" but not only to what is happening in WB, but nationwide.
Don't discount the number
Don't discount the number of YES'S in WB! That was a positive sign for change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank's WEST BAY!!!!!
Maybe the percentage of no
Maybe the percentage of no showers is indicative of the percentage of the population who:
I can say this, because I was one of them, until I decided to educate myself, did my own research and listened to both sides with a very open and natural mind. I weigh in on how any outcome would affect the future of the Cayman Islands and our future generations.
This is the approach I plan to take in May 2013 if I live to see it. I plan to put the future and betterment of these islands first. This is where I call home and my children call and know as home and we have nowhere else to run to when the “shit hit the fan” and frankly at that point it makes no sense to cast blame then.
The YES vote numbers send a
The YES vote numbers send a clear message to the UDP Government despite the outcome. That mesage is the majority of the people that voted are tired of McKeeva & his style of running this country. This mesage is the death knell for the UDP in the next election. All the positive OMOV voters in the next election will support the majority of independant candidates & see them with a seat in the LA. Except in West Bay ( of course )
just the change the voting
just the change the voting law to state "50% +1" and you will see how many changes will happen with laws. no way in the real world will a country get the entire register voters to vote.
My frustration with this
My frustration with this whole issue was that it became a Vote yes if you support PPM and Independents and Vote no is you support UDP and that is not what was supposed to happen. Both teams confused the issue by sinking to using the issue to campaign. So many people told me they thought if they vote yes to OMOV it would remove the current Gov't and that is because the PPM and Independent took hold of the OMOV initiative and used it to slander the UDP and the UDP took hold of it to slander the PPM and Independent and its the people who got lost in the middle trying to figure out what the heck single member constituencies are! I have no political experience and don't understand much of the jargon and it was extremely difficult for me to educate myself on the issue because so much time and effort was wasted trying to wade through all the name calling and hoopla. OMOV wasnt supposed to address who was elected it was supposed to address HOW they were elected. I sincerely, hope that the voter turnout will be better for the 2013 elections but again until the mudslinging and tit for tat stops the confusion will continue. I have seen toddlers resolve their differences in a more mature manner than these grown adults, its sickening to watch and listen to. I do think though that this referendum shed some light on how the electorate feel about their representation, I expected WB to be a landslide NO and was surprised the difference was so close. Now the current Government and any who will run against them have an insight into just how the public is feeling. personally, I think we need some strong Independents because party politics is too much like gang warfare. Look at the numerous YCLA nominees and recipients, put them all in a room together and you are telling me there arent about 10-15 strong political candidates? I think Cayman needs new representation we have been picking from the came ole basket for too long.
This is only the second time
This is only the second time Cayman voters have ever been able to express themselves about how they want their government to be set up. It's always been decided by a few before this. The good representatives will take note that 2 out of 3 people supported this even though the premier was against it. Democratic change is messy and takes time. Hang in there!
"The Conquering Saviour shall
"The Conquering Saviour shall break every chain and give us the victory again and again"............come May 2013 the UDP shall continue the walk down freedom street and the Hon. W. McKeeva Bush will return as our Premier!
We take it it was your church
We take it it was your church that stole our two million? Those three criminal investigation chains should prove to be quite a job for the Conquering Saviour.
65% (5,631) of voters who
65% (5,631) of voters who turned out to yesterday's OMOV Referendum voted YES!
The people CAN still claim a strong VICTORY!
In other countries that have referendum votes, this would have been a clear pass at 15% over the 50% + 1 of voters who turned out (8,677) bar.
Tell a fool he's not a fool
Tell a fool he's not a fool and he'll believe it cos he dont want to be a fool..... MacKeeva relies on the ignorancy of his voters, and time and time again they dont disappoint him.
Oh, man, this is one of the
Oh, man, this is one of the funniest ironic statements I've read in a long time.
People were bombarded with
People were bombarded with instructions, not educated - from both factions.
I found the OMOV people to be
I found the OMOV people to be very educating and honest. They didn't push anything. They explained the pros and the cons. I can't speak for all OMOV meetings but the one I went to was not a push down your throat kind of thing.
It does not take a stretch of
It does not take a stretch of the imagination to realize that in the future any Govt might not like the UK having to approve our budget and bring a referendum and word it:
'Do you want the UK to have the final say over your local representatives'?
That Govt could then take funds from the treasury and have a one-sided campaign to encourage the voters to 'vote no' or abstain from voting (as they have just done).
Then those who do not vote will enable that Govt to take Cayman independent...
The constitution needs to be amended to say 50% + 1 of the electors who voted - rather than of the entire amount of registered voters.
This referendum shows that we are truly in a dangerous position!
Lord man please get off this
Lord man please get off this subject because i can not listen to another tirade by the UDP's Legal representative Jonah Killjoy that would just finish kill me. The man i swear swallowed a radio or something and it appears to be stuck on one station.
That is not stopping me from
That is not stopping me from voting for only ONE MAN!! If you dont deserve my X you not getting it!
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