The Right to Bear Arms

The more crime increases the more calls for civilians and police officers to be "strapped". I for one am very squeamish about joe blow being able to carry a gun, regardless if they have clean police records or not. My focus would be more on the reasons for the gun crimes and then tackle the true problem instead of everyone arming themselves. We are a very small island and we are also a very unique island. We are completely flat and there is no where that we can run or hide to..Once we spiral into that area every single one of us will be affected in some way form or fashion, so comparing ourselves to the US and Jamaica is not realistic in my humble opinion.

I hate to say it but there are quite a few police officers who now abuse their power and simple things like a siren much less a loaded weapon. So I am not so sure how I feel about every police officer being "strapped" as well. I will leave that for another time.

Finding the true problem means having readily available statistics and information at our disposal necessary to make informed decisions. Take a look at all our gun crimes to date and try to pinpoint trends; once these trends are identified put into place the proper procedures and laws and ensure ENFORCEMENT of these laws and procedures.

One thing about getting into a fight if you have no weapon I am going to find something simple a rock a piece of stick something simple to over-power you. However, if you have a knife I am going to bring a machete etc so the more civilians who are armed with guns the criminals will up the ante so that they can 'win the fight'. That's why I don't believe the solution is in arming everyone because the crimals are always going to be two steps ahead in terms of the types of weapons that will be introduced to our society. Right now it appears to be a certain sector of our community who are committing these crimes why not nip it in the bud now before it escalates into an island wide disaster.

As a society we need to provide opportunities for our young men and ensure that the proper guidance is in place so that they are able to capitalize on these opportunities. Through social programmes, apprenticeships strong deterrents etc so that the life of crime isnt as appealing as it now appears to be. We need to make it "lame" to be a criminal right now it seems all too glamourous. For the hardened criminals be it local or expatriate the thought of being caught should be so frightening that stupid incidents like a drive by shooting at 8pm on a main road would be unheard of!!!

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Arms, guns,

 More guns is not the answer......its less guns.....

...pass legislation that creates serious jail time and fines for smuggling or having an illegal firearm. Serious serious time for armed violence of any kind.

...central firearms registry that knows where ever gun is. Have licensed firearms in non moveable safes or you can't have your licensed gun.

... no more licenses.

... anomous tip line to turn people in with guns....rewards.

... trail by judge so witnesses and jurors cannot be threathened. 

You are correct....we have a small island and there should be noooo reason why we cannot get    guns    under control.

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Personally in the hotter

Personally in the hotter weather I find long sleeve shirts less comfortable and would really object to some objecting to my right to where short sleeve shirts.  Why is so wrong with having a right to bare arms?

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I do not think the issue of

I do not think the issue of arming bears is necessarily something we should be too concerned about in the Cayman Islands.  As far as I am aware there are no bears indigenous to the Islands which makes the issue as to whether the should be armed somewhat a moot debate.

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Re: The Right to Bear Arms

Dear Anonymous 08/26/2009 - 13:46,

You should apologize for feeling “...squeamish about Joe Blow being able to carry a gun...”.  Consider who your allies are against private gun ownership: Adolph Hitler who oversaw the killing of MILLIONS of Jews, Joseph Stalin who oversaw the disarmament of 20,000,000 people who were later murdered in mass executions, Mao Tse-tung who forced the disarmament of 20,000,000 people who were later slaughtered by the thousands and buried in mass graves, Pol Pot who disarmed and enforced executions of 1,000,000 educated people.  Oh, almost forgot, the other criminals in the Cayman...

While you are still trying to understand why criminals commit crimes, people are being murdered.  The fact remains that without a firearm, wherever you are, you are defenceless against certain criminals.  You clearly support providing a risk free environment for criminals to run things – no thank you!  We cannot address violent crime by running and hiding from it.  In my view, if anyone is going to be running, it should be the criminals!

You say, “One thing about getting into a fight if you have no weapon I am going to find something simple a rock a piece of stick something simple to over-power you.”  If you have the time to search for “something” to defend yourself, I would advise you to run from the scene.  Furthermore, it is more sensible to have a defensive device on your person, because you should not be required by law to unnecessary risk your life by hoping you find “something” to prevent or stop an unlawful violent attack against yourself.

You say, “Right now it appears to be a certain sector of our community who are committing these crimes why not nip it in the bud now before it escalates into an island wide disaster.”  Good suggestion, but how would you suggest we actually accomplish your desirable goal?  By disarming the law-abiding residents?  Can residents sue you or the police when the police fail to protect them?

It has always been “lame” to be criminal, but if you think that economic prosperity is the answer to eliminating crime, you’re wrong.  Very wrong!  The illegal drug industry thrives in prosperous societies and where there are drugs there are weapons of every kind...  Sigh!  We will never totally eliminate violent crime, wish you were correct, but the need for a means of self-defence will remain until Christ returns.

You said, “For the hardened criminals be it local or expatriate the thought of being caught should be so frightening that stupid incidents like a drive by shooting at 8pm on a main road would be unheard of!!!”  Let me tell you what is frightening to criminals: looking down the barrel of a gun in the hands of law-abiding residents defending themselves as the criminals drive-by.  There are more of us than there is of them.  Our prison is no deterrent and you appear to be suggesting that we run and hide!

Since you are “Anonymous” to me, it is not possible for me to excuse your ignorance on the above, because you might be a repeat offender!

I absolutely agree with you that some officers abuse their power, but thanks to anonymous people like you who are too afraid to live up to your responsibilities as citizens of this polity, we enjoy less progress on this front.  Nevertheless, because an officer may at some point act inappropriately or even criminally does not mean that we can ignore the need for some officers to be armed.

Please think about it.
 

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Very well said Dennie, i

Very well said Dennie, i totally agree with your post!

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Wow, did you just put the

Wow, did you just put the poster on the same level as Hitler, Stalin and Mao? XXX

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Having a gun in the US makes

Having a gun in the US makes you over 4 times more likely to be shot as a victim of crime.  Please think about it.

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Or very likely to be shot

Or very likely to be shot with your own gun.

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That is idiotic.  You made a

That is idiotic.  You made a statement of "over 4 times more likely to be shot" as if that means if you have guns you are more likely to get shot.  Be real, get educated, that is a very thin correlation. IE, if you are shot, you are likely to have been involved with criminal activity, making you more likely to get shot (by the other bad guys or the police).

Don't bother posting back as I am not coming back to read, but try to make and educated argument next time, this one is just plain dumb.

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People, law abiding citizens

People, law abiding citizens should have the right to ber arms. Not a criminal toffender.  The end of a double barrel shot gun  shoved down his throat should meet a burglar everytime he attempts to burglarize a business or break into a premises to commit a home invasion or in more cases intent to rape some innocent victim.

A right to bear arms needs to be considered. This is nonsense taking away machettes from taxi drivers who are at risk to be robbed along with their tourist customers. how insane is this. the RCIP don't have anthing better to do?  The laws need to be re writen in the constitution that if the people can not protect themselves then they must be protected by the police thats not possible so some amendments need to be made, some laws need to be passed allowing innocent people to protect themselves and their families.

 

 

 

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Not only that but

a must issue law as well.

Meaning that a person who does not have a record or mental issues can get  a gun licence.

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