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Port could face retender

video (252x300).jpg(CNS): Concerns about the development of the George Town cruise facilities and the need to get the project back in line with what the UK Minister for OTs called international procurement best practice may see the project retendered. During his visit to Cayman last week Henry Bellingham said he had “numerous concerns” about that project and wanted the premier to seek advice from the auditor general and the chair of the Central Tenders Committee on how to ensure the project will, going forward, meet the standards of good governance expected. He did not spell out exactly what he meant by that but it could mean the project may have to be bid all over again.

It may be very difficult for the premier to reach the standard of best practice which the UK is calling for as the CHEC proposal was never part of the original tendering process. At the very least, Bellingham made it clear the port would be the subject of much wider scrutiny before the premier would be in a position to sign a definitive agreement with the developers, China Harbour Engineering Company.

Auditor General Alastair Swarbrick confirmed that so far the premier has not asked him for any advice. "If and when I am asked for my advice I will provide that to government,” he said but would not elaborate on how he would advise the premier to get the project back in line with best practice.

However, Swarbrick said his concerns regarding the procurement process generally were outlined in last year's performance audit report. “We made the shortcomings of the current practices very clear and our concerns relating to the involvement of politicians in the procurement process known. Those concerns still exist and we are looking to see how the government will address them.”

During his visit last week the overseas territories minister emphasised over and over the need for good governance and for the Cayman government to follow best practice in procurement. Bellingham said he was not concerned about the nationality of the proposed developers and was not opposed to international investment.

“There are concerns on a number of issues, including procurement and the major projects,” Bellingham said. “I believe it’s vital that such important projects be procured in-line with international best practice to ensure value for money. I have concerns over procurement of the cruise ship terminal project, which I have raised with the premier. I have made it very clear to him, for me to be able to support the project it must be in line with international best practice.”

The minister said he was seeking reassurance as to how the premier would achieve this and spoke about the importance of trust and confidence. “This is a huge project for the Cayman Islands and one that’s incredibly important to get right,” he said.

The FCO minister stated that the financial framework agreement which the premier signed last year went further than the issue of public spending. It is also about good governance across the whole of the public sector and procurement, Bellingham said, adding that the Cayman people needed to have confidence in the procurement process. 

In the most recent public comments about the project Ellio Solomon, who is leading the negotiations with China Harbour, stated that construction would start in September, which may well be wishful thinking since there are numerous hurdles that the government will have to jump before the FCO is satisfied that the project meets with the requirements of the financial framework agreement.

When government first announced its own plans for the port after winning the 2009 elections, the project was put out to tender. DECCO, the Dart Group’s construction company, came out top in the first bid from the Port Authority’s short list. However, the islands’ largest investor pulled out of negotiations with government when the parties reached stalemate over the period of time Dart wanted to lease the upland development area in order to recoup its investment.

GLF construction was the next bidder on the shortlist, so when the DECCO talks collapsed, Cline Glidden, who was the government’s lead negotiator at the time, moved into talks with the Italian-based firm and their local partners, Royal Construction. Just weeks before the company was ready to mobilize, the premier, going over the heads of the port board and his own back-bencher, announced his decision to terminate those talks as he did not believe GLF had the cash, and moved into negotiations with CHEC.

The Beijing-based firm, however, was not next on the port’s list as it had never taken part in the original bid. As a result, in order for the project to get back in line with what the UK considers international procurement best practice, the bid may have to be retendered.

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And I bet you're surprised

And I bet you're surprised that Bush's boy messed up, he has always been the stool pidgeon for the rest of the cabinet, they didn't want to get their hands dirty on this one, After all, its only the biggest civil construction project ever seen in Cayman, why wouldn't you put an inexperienced newby at the sharp end?  

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While I could not agree more

While I could not agree more about the experience of Fool-foolio, don't be fooled for a minute that McKeeva Bush is making ALL of the decisions regarding the port. Fool-foolio is only a puppet that is controlled by money and power. When are we as Caymanian going to stand-up to defend our Country? We are now past the stage where we need to sign a petition to remove our current government. Please note that I am a Caymanian and I am not for the UDP or the PPM!

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Another scandal that falls

Another scandal that falls squarely on the shoulders of McKeeva Bush! Who is going to pay for the inevitable law suit when the deals he unilaterally and illegally entered into on behalf of this country fall apart? I understand that McKeeva is incapable of acknowledging his mistakes, but what must his party think when they read headline after headline about his behaviour? How can they continue to support him and sleep at night? I can only conclude that they XXXXX intend to go down with the ship.

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What ever happened to the

What ever happened to the deal with atlantic star from back in 2007
Seems they had it all planned out would have been done by now thats for sure!

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Their proposal for relocating

Their proposal for relocating the cargo facility to the north, by Mr. Arthur's, would have caused too much additional environmental damage.

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I worried bout mi bye Ellio

I worried bout mi bye Ellio wha de hell going to happen to him and the amount of time he has invested inna dis!

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We have more time to look at

We have more time to look at the big picture and review this like open minded people looking for the best solution to fit our countries needs and concerns.
 
God Bless Cayman and Rememeber we make our home a home for everyone to enjoy. We all in thei place meaning everyone on this Island Should Contribute in everyway possible. Positive thoughts, We are what we make it.

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Until you role them over.

Until you role them over.

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Will the same process now be

Will the same process now be followed for the deals with Dart? (ie moving dump and closing part of west bay road)

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When the politicians told the

When the politicians told the sea captains they were too far ahead with chec to consider red bay, does this now mean it can be considered?

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Never mind refusing to

Never mind refusing to relinquish his death grip on this country and it's people, what really boggles my mind where on earth does McKeeva find the nerve to get out of his bed in the morning.

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at the bank?

at the bank?

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Poor Mac. So much

Poor Mac. So much b-brurocratic harrassment.

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This is a positive

This is a positive development on many fronts. As others have said, I sure hope Big Mac or Helio haven't signed anything they wished they hadn't.
I hope all options return to the table and a proper vetting process takes place:
CHEC
Decco
GLF
Red Bay
 
The one question I have not been able to find an answer for is under the CHEC deal, the per passenger cruise fee was going to CHEC as their repayment for the building of the port. This is a substantial of government revenue which CIG would no longer be receiving. What was the plan for replacing this annual revenue that would be lost from the government coffers? Or are the equivalent expenditures going to disappear too? I look forward to insight on that scenario. 
Meanwhile, onwards and upwards with due process and good governance.
 

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What on God's Green Earth

What on God's Green Earth does the Premier know about engineering, construction, contract negotiations or anything else?  I wouldn't let him negotiate a long distance call let alone allow him to be a signing authority for anything involving public money. 

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Can you remember the Frist

Can you remember the Frist Cayman Bank failure and who was the Managing Director?  What else can we expect from someone with limited everything but is miinster of Finance, Development, Tourism and has control over the CIMA.
When are we going to interview a kindergarden child for the JOB.

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Same goes for Helium.

Same goes for Helium.

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He knows enough to be able to

He knows enough to be able to calculate 10 or 15 per cent of a gross number.

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Be fair to the man If we only

Be fair to the man

If we only let him deal with stuff that he knew something about he would get very bored doing nothing!

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He knows enough to do well

He knows enough to do well for himself.

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Sigh.....Not the Red Bay

Sigh.....Not the Red Bay nonsense again. They lost the argument last time and the possibility of a retender for the GT dock changes none of the fundamentals against it. No doubt we will have the benefit of their new fancy website soon.....double sigh......

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Not sure what argument they

Not sure what argument they "lost"? The Sea Captains presented a very thorough plan that dealth with all the relevant issues and Ellio and the Government refused to even grant them an audience. The Sea Captains understand that the Government did not want a better solution to the long term cruise industry to upset the CHEC proposal given the timing of next elections and the previous false starts. Re-tendering gives them a chance now. 

Red Bay is a superior choice in terms of traffic, in terms of limiting environmental damage, in terms of safety, in terms of guaranteeeing arrivals and most of all in terms of costs. Supporters from both UDP and PPM support the concept. The taxi and tour operators do as well. Many of the actual Cruise captains do as well.

Red Bay provides an "ALL WEATHER PORT" rather than a couple of "Nor'wester/Hurricane prone jetties" out on the edge of a drop-off -- that is the big difference. No one can argue against that. We even have to spend another $10,000,000 at Spotts as a back-up to the new $300,000,000 jetties...makes no sense. Spotts would have been used 30-35 days last year and several of those days neither GT nor Spotts could be used and ships left. So building something that you cannot use for 1 month of the year is simple crazy. Given that that month is in high cruise season its even crazier. So after we spend $310,000,000 we still have to turn away cruise ships in high season! Not sure how Red Bay "lost" any argument.

The Captains website is still active at "www.caymancruiseport.com" so you can see the pros & cons of the facility there as well as the drawings and press releases. Clearly you did not read them.

But for clarity, no serious argument has been but forward to date on why Red Bay is not a better solution to long term cruise berthing. Only the downtown merchants and folks with financial interest in the CHEC proposal were against it and now that they see the light of 100,000 square foot of terminal retail, Red Bay should be seriously considered. It was modelled off the Nassau Bahamas terminal and it guarantees the ships safe and controlled berthing every day, of every year for less cost.

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Now the CHEC is going to sue

Now the CHEC is going to sue the Government for breach of contract and that will be another 2 million. Who is going to pay for this one Mr. Premier since you claim the Government didn't pay for the last one. 

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This one will probably be

This one will probably be more like 20 million.

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BAD LUCK FOR ELIO

BAD LUCK FOR ELIO

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... Is good luck for

... Is good luck for Cayman....

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Oh well, time to unpack my

Oh well, time to unpack my bags. I don't think Ellio is going to need a hairdresser on his trip to China anytime soon.

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So you're the one that has

So you're the one that has been giving him that Fresh Prince of Belair flat -top look from the 80's  LOL!! Please get a new occupation!

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I thought it was more San

I thought it was more San Francisco 1980's than Fresh Prince 1980's.  "

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If Helium ever sees that

If Helium ever sees that haircut you've been giving him he'll KILL you.

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to: Anonymous (not verified)

to: Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 04/25/2012 - 12:20.
We could say bye bye to everything if we let CHEC secure the contract!!
Is this such a bad alternative?  I'm all for reducing traffic in town for one, and it makes sense if town becomes too choppy to have a port in Red Bay.  http://www.caymancruiseport.com/
Also, from what I can gather wouldn't it provide employment to so many people who do not have jobs in Cayman?  Just my two cents....
 

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Who does that Belli man think

Who does that Belli man think he is telling Mckeeva what to do? Bellingham? Retender my backfoot! That's alot of money in me pocket to lose!

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You can blame Brother McKeeva

You can blame Brother McKeeva for that. 'Losing' our money seems to be his biggest kick in life.

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Well you better keep 'em -

Well you better keep 'em - doesn't lok as though you can afford to give them away.

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You talking about jobs to the

You talking about jobs to the imported Chinese labour?

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more unemployed caymanians

more unemployed caymanians and a rise in crime! !good joob keke you are the best choice, this another reason why you should step down, you cannot finsh nothing you start!!!!!!!!!

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Wait. Thsi is but one iron in

Wait. Thsi is but one iron in the fire. Wait till you hear about the financial projections and the budget for next year - then you will see how many things are started but cannot be finished.

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I do not think it is fair to

I do not think it is fair to say that KeKe cannot finish anything that he starts..
We do not know that, because he has not even started anything in the past three years...
Just tax us, and talk, and come up with hare brained schemes, and travel and spend...
And oh did I say talk, and come up with more hare brained schemes, and travel, and spend?
 

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I usually think people can do

I usually think people can do just about anything here and not suffer the consequences, but I think this time maybe someone (who has been pushing the boundries a long time) may have gone a leeeeetle bit to far.  we'll see....

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Just hope to Hell that there

Just hope to Hell that there have not been any "up front" payments by CHEC to cover things like the GLF "Intellectual Property" bought by Bush for $2 MILLION ! - I wouldn't want to be the one to tell the Chinese that I didn't have any money left to pay them back. Even more, let's pray that nothing exists, in writing, which vaguely resembles a contract,

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This is the same as

This is the same as Bellingham taking Mac and smacking his palm with his ruler and say "Bad Boy" now go to your room and dont come out until you are ready to apologize and clean up your mess.
 

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Only problem is he smacked

Only problem is he smacked him in the wrong place with the wrong thing.

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I wonder if McKeewa can now

I wonder if McKeewa can now sell the "intelletual property" in having to go back to tender?

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Great news.  Now...I have

Great news.  Now...I have said this before and I am saying it again...Cayman does not NEED a cruiseship dock.  Cayman needs a really good tender landing.  One that is separate from the cargo, commercial, container dock that now operates in Georgetown.  Cayman has a Navy that moves thousands of tourists daily, efficently and safely.  This would alleviate any need to dredge or blast reefs in the harbour, save a huge amount of money and be completed in a very short time.  Cayman is too safe, clean and beautiful for the cruising public to turn its back on just because there is no cattle car cruiseship facility for 4 cruiseships to tie up to at once. Granted also that Spotts needs a major upgrade to handle traffic in Nor'wester season. If you think the cruise lines are not going to come here anymore, you are mistaken.  Think of the money the cruise lines will save in fuel if Cuba opens up.  Florida to Jamaica, Jamaica to Cayman, Cayman to Cuba, Cuba to the US.  They can almost drift that route.  No need to put hundreds of millions into an unnecessary project when all you need is a good tender landing.   Doing this will also ensure that the existing merchants downtown will not have the unnecessary and unfair competion they would have from more upland shopping granted to the builders of the cruiseship dock.  I would also recommend installing 4 permanent moorings for the cruiseships that do come here.  This would save anchor damage to the harbour and make for easy mooring and sailing for the ships themselves. The sight of 4 or 5 big ships in the harbour on a nice day is magnificent.  A sight you will not see in many other places.

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Very few people wonder if we

Very few people wonder if we need a new dock at all. I have never seen anyone address the problem of several thousand people setting foot in GT at once rather than the gradual arrival by tender. I doubt any of the taxis, buses, even Uncle Dart's could cope with everyone disembarking at once. If you think the traffic is bad in downtown GT, wait until there is a new dock and four ships unload at once.

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Somehow i think, just like

Somehow i think, just like many other islands have, we can figure out the trafffic part of the equation. Right now we just need to get back on the right track. Someone please call GLF!!

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Unfortunately Red Flag you

Unfortunately Red Flag you are wrong. I too would like to see your vision of Cayman cruising however here are the facts:

1. Cayman is the only port of its type in the Caribbean where the ships have to tender. The liability to cruise lines is significant as they are the ones paying to deliver them to shore.

2. The larger ships cannot successfully tender. 6000 passengers and 2100 crew. The industry has moved to these megaships and only the economy in the last 3 years has changed the speed of conversion but that is now how on the rebound the cruiselines will depoy more of them.

3. Cuba already has 14 ports with deep enough water to take these ships right now. Left over from the Solviet Navy/cold war days. They will take ships from us. At the moment we are convieniently halfway from Florida if you go via Mexico or go via Bahamas/jamaica. Cuba will eventually suit that timing location perfectly and they will use less fuel to get there. More history, culture and a fascination for the Americans.

4. Permanent moorings have been looked at. The Cayman Government/Port Authority would have to maintain these and more importantly retain the liability for each of those $750M ships attached to them. With weather shifts that we sometimes have, you need to deploy 2 mooring per ship and you cannot do that in the limited area out there. Not really an option.

5. When at a pier, it is proven that the passengers have more time onshore, shop more, go on longer tours, etc, etc. More of the crew comes off as well and they spend too.   In other words the "dollar spend" goes up--something we need in Cayman.

These are some of the reasons we need piers for these ships...we just need to apply common sense in its design, cost and construction as well as putting it in the correct location.

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My Dear Red Flag, As I make

My Dear Red Flag,
As I make this reply to your post, I see that you have a four-to-one ratio in FAVOR of your comment.  Darn!.... I would have liked to see 90% or more!  You are so right.  We do NOT need a monster budget-busting dock!  Your suggestion for better tender landings and cruiseship moorings makes a lot more sense.  Think about it, Caymanians.......  This is the way to go.  Save big bucks.  Save our merchants.  Save our reefs.

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At last some common sense. We

At last some common sense. We don't have the money and don't need a big C/S dock. The value to Cayman is 99% based upon STAY OVER TOURISM and we need to get out act together on that real soon. Fortunately we have a good product. If we only had a National Airlines in the tourism business it would help.

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Does this mean that we are

Does this mean that we are not going to get the pier down by the turtle farm again?

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