Mac ‘double-dips’ in pension
(CNS): Information revealed by the Public Service Pension Board shows that the premier is doubling-dipping by taking his pension entitlement on top of his monthly salary as the country’s leader. McKeeva Bush has served more than 20 years as an elected official and is entitled to a pension based on two thirds of his pay at the time he opted to draw down on that pension. Bush began taking his in January 2010 when he turned 55 but before his self imposed 10% reduction in his own premier's pay packet. At the time he was earning over $14,800pcm meaning that Bush could be receiving almost $10,000 in pension payments as well as his regular pay cheque. However, the premier could have opted to take a lump sum as he is entitled to do under the terms of the MLAs’ pension.
According to the formula and rules that govern politicians' pension entitlements,, those who have a fully vested pension can opt to take an up-front lump sum of up to 20% of the monthly entitlement multiplied by 20 years when they begin taking their pensions. In other words, the premier could have reduced his monthly payments by 20% in exchange for a cash sum of around a half million dollars.
The document released by the PSPB following an FOI request made by CNS last year did not reveal if the premier had taken the lump sum, reducing his monthly payments to under $8,000, but just the date he began drawing down and the years he has served in the country’s parliament.
All former and serving MLAs can take their pensions when they reach the age of 55 provided they have completed one full term in office. The longer the member has served, the more money they can receive -- up to a full amount of two thirds of their salaries at the time of opting to take the pension.
A member who has completed one term can take one fifth of the two thirds, two terms two fifths and so on up to a member who has served twenty years, as is the case with the premier, who can then access a fully vested pension.
The request, which asked the PSPB to list the current and former MLAs who were drawing on their pensions and how long they had served in the Legislative Assembly, also shows that Kurt Tibbetts and Anthony Eden, as already publicly acknowledged, are also double-dipping on their pension entitlements, despite not being fully vested.
However, Captain Eugene Ebanks, who passed his 55th birthday and is also entitled to draw on his pension, has not yet opted to do so. Nor has Ezzard Miller, the independent MLA for North Side, who was the first MLA to raise the question on the floor of the Legislative Assembly. Miller said he thought it was “immoral” for serving members to draw a pay check and a pension and termed it “double dipping”, before announcing he intended to bring a motion to stop members from doing it in future.
Tibbetts and Eden, who were both elected to the Legislative Assembly in 1992, began taking their pensions in 2009 after serving four terms and are therefore entitled to four fifths of the two third rate of their respective salaries at the time. This means that Tibbetts will be receiving around $7,600 per month and his PPM colleague Eden about $6,900 on top of their current MLA salaries of approximately $9,000pcm.
The details of the pension payments to politicians past and present was finally released on Wednesday afternoon at around 4pm, five weeks after the information commissioner had ruled that the information was not exempt, as the board had claimed.
Despite not applying for judicial review following the commissioner’s decision, the PSPB held onto the information, as reported by CNS on Tuesday. However, the story appears to have prompted the board to finally release the list, which is posted below.
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Yet another step towards the
Is Eugene Ebanks doubling
Is Eugene Ebanks doubling Dipping too? That will be a shame, as he don't do anything, as an elected official. He is just there to vote "yes" for everything.
CNS: Captain Eugene is not on the list of past and present MLAs collecting pensions.
Mr. Ezzard Miller please let
CNS can you please
Big Mac took a 3% salary cut
How Bias can Human be- Both
Everytime I read this article
Someone has to sit Mr
Someone has to sit Mr Fill--Land-Throw-Pist down & say look here: Mr Bush,Bushy,Mac,Jack,whatever. You are the problem with Cayman's economy & it has taken year's for this to get to this point. Additionally because of you we the Caymanian people will have all future politician's on probation for.... 4 year's,if you corn swabble at all within that time your politicing is over. We the Caymanian people cannot & will not become the beggar's in our own country,bar none,while other's reap the benefit of our hospitality. No politician should expect to jet set around under the guise of Mou's & the like while the Caymanian people suffer the playful gamble of a politician. Mr Bush,Bushy,Mac,Jack,whatever,there is now a surplus of what we understand to be 40 million dollars since the recent increase in fees,but there is no reduction in fees! Mr Bush,Bushy,Mac,Jack,whatever,when preaching & talking is done 'in the abundance of water the fool is thirsty'.
I agree with McKeeva being
Ezzard states; "the new
Surely a pension is paid on
Surely a pension is paid on retirement, the fact that you have been employed for the maximin number of years required to qualify only means that if you choose to retire that is the level of pension you are entitled to receive. The point being after you cease to be employed by that employer not as bonus payment.
I am happy to see these MP,
Of course this is happening.
Wutless!!!!!Shame Shame
Wutless!!!!!Shame Shame Shame!
These disgusting people are
I truly believe that all that
I truly believe that all that we as people of this small country can see going on is only the very tip of a gigantic and toxic iceberg. XXXX It is my fervent wish that this perpetraitor be permanently banished from any and all positions of power in this or any other country as he is the greatest liability and worst enemy that the Cayman Islands has, bar none. The fox is in the henhouse and he needs to get what the duck got, the sooner the better because by 2013 it is my humble opinion that the damage done will be catastrophic and completely irreversible. If this man, his cronies and puppetmasters, or anyone else who puts themself before the good of this country are allowed to continue, the future of this country is going to be very bleak.
Regardless of the context of this article and whether or not this is truly "double dipping", the blatant prostitution and outright butchery of the past, present and future of this country has to stop and I for one am open to all suggestions as to how this can be achieved peacefully. If one were to look at the history of Cuba one would see how the abuses at the hand of Batista and his cronies ultimately led to a revolution which ended up throwing the baby out with the bathwater and it is a lesson to learn that should be taken into account and heeded with the gravity it deserves. The similarities are truly astounding.
If these abuses of power are allowed to continue unabated then when change comes it could well turn out to be from frying pan to fire. We must dispose of this despot and rid his stench from the collective consciousness of this country forthwith. I am much more fearful of the effect he is having and has had on this country and her people than anything which he could do to me personally and to those who would speak up and sign their name but are fearful of repurcussions, I quote the words of a past American president in times of great turbulence; "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself".
In the aftermath of hurricane Michelle, McKeeva Bush staged a coup and descended as a buzzard on a weakened animal in a play for his own good and not for the country as a whole by any means. The time has come for the shoe to be on the other foot except this time it will be for the good of this country. Will the real patriots of the Cayman Islands please stand up and be counted, time is of the essence and that is what it boils down to. It is only then that we as a country will be able to attack and work to find the solutions to the myriad and ever increasing problems which this country is facing. At the very least the man is unworthy of his post and he is not a part of the solution, he is a part of the problem. I truly believe this and I will fight for the right of anyone who disagrees with me to do so, that is called democracy. God bless the Cayman Islands, we need it.
Jonathan, whether by Freudian
Jonathan, whether by Freudian slip or purposeful design, your misspelling of the word, 'perpetraitor' was wonderfully appropriate.
Twas no mistake my friend.
There is little anyone can do
There is little anyone can do until the next elections. Politicians get away with outrageous things that would put others behind bars for long periods of time. They stick together like survivors on a raft, all chained together, knowing that if they throw one of their members overboard, they'll all be dragged down.
Nothing changes: John Randolph 1773-1833, had a wonderful gift for describing, with exquisite aptness, the egregious failings his fellow politicians.
For example, of Edward Livingston he said, 'he is a man of splendid abilities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight.'
Or of Richard Rush, Secretary of the Treasury he said, 'never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded; no, not when Caligula's horse was made consul'.
Once he referred to, 'that most delicious of privileges--spending other people's money.'
And don't forget the genius Montaigne, who 500 years ago said, (roughly), 'that however high a prince's throne, yet still he sits on his own bottom.'
Nothing changes.
And don't forget what I say :
And don't forget what I say : 'Meet em at the airport!"
I'm not sure it's actually
it's difficult to see greed
What example is Mr Bush
Some comments compare the MLA
Some comments compare the MLA benefits to civil servants'. Some even refer to them as if they were civil servants (they are not). Try comparing the required hours of work of civil servants to MLAs. How many days per year each is required to work, Compare pay. Compare travel benefits. OH, and free meals on the job - how many of them do civil service get. Can a civil servant retire and be rehired with salary and pension after 55? Could a MLa be elected do nothing, not attend meetings (or if a minimum is required then just the minimum) for the four years and still get a pension? God Bless the one 'eligible' MLA that did the right thing and not take the pension.
Two quick points - I think
Two quick points - I think CNS hurts their own credibility though the title of the article - "Mac Double Dips ..." Clearly he is not the only one and CNS by singling out Mac may get readers interested in the article but certainly it is not good journalism. Secondly, given the number of young Caymanians seeking opportunities (and having the supporting education talent and education to make a positive impact) government needs to actually "retire" those civil servants already taking their pension. Step aside and let the next generation bring their ideas for the betterment of Cayman.
CNS: The other members of the LA who are taking their pensions had already admitted it, and this was reported in a previous article. The revelation that the premier was double dipping was therefore the "news".
I agree with CNS that the
I agree with CNS that the distinction between mac not revealing his and the others doing so this IS newsworthy. But I think cns failed in examining whether there is anything morally wrong here or in addressing the so called accusation of double dipping.
CNS: The question of the morality of the issue is an opinion. This is not an opinion piece (commentary). It is an article which presents the facts of the situation.
CNS: Would you care to
CNS: Would you care to explain why taking a pension which you are entitled to under the civl service rules while being paid a salary and NOT continuing to contribute to a pension while working beyond age 55 is "double dipping"? Have you actually thought about how this is "double dipping" or did you just pick up on what Ezzard said in the LA? I know...it definitely sounds catchy/entertaining but lets think about it before charging down the sensationalist road. Help us to better understand the issues CNS, we know you are capable of that.
CNS: You are arguing semantics and everyone else is discussing the issue of MLAs taking their pension while they are also collecting a salary for being a sitting MLA. The terminology is irrelevant to the issue (that means it doesn't matter what you call it) and "double dipping" is not a precise term (that means its usage is flexible). However, I don't think that anyone else is confused about what it is referring to here.
Cayman politricks changed
Cayman politricks changed forever with the Bush generation of politico's. They passed legislation to give themselves large salaries and generous benefits and pensions. Being a politician was get rich first and then serve the people if there was time. It is hard to believe that anyone would argue "its the law therefore they are entitled". They created the law. Its plain old wrong whether it is a law or not. 55 is the retirement age, must be nice not to have to work to 65, 70 like the rest of you. How about the amount of time you serve and then collect your pension? Must be nice. This fodder has been going on for so long people are beginning to think it is normal or ok. At least the other two MLA's had the coconuts to disclose they were receiving a pension BEFORE the actually retired from service. Mr. Bush's "I will do whatever I want attitude" is once again thrown in everyones face. It is like West Bay election favors. For years many have complained about this practice. My West Bay friends used to tell me about the runners coming to their houses the night before elections and getting a $100.00 bill and told that Mr. is asking you to vote your conscience. Cayman is better than this folks. You deserve better than third world politicians getting rich off their own people.
I found out after many years
I found out after many years that it isn't love that makes the world go 'round.... it's greed. It's just human nature to be greedy. Politicians are human, therefore they are greedy.
To me it is not surprising
The greatest leaders produce
It's ok.... the rest of us
Why don't they just let us
Sorry....... You aren't a
Sorry....... You aren't a politician!
Politicians often seem to
As a Civil Servant who has
Clearly this is a christian
Clearly this is a christian country.
The remark was meant as
The remark was meant as serious.
It disgusts me to see these churchgoers take whatever they can get their hands on.
It disgusts me even more to see the church going voters being so naif.
According to the Shaw-Miller
Can a Civil Servant in Cayman
I vote that the law governing
There is nothing "amoral"
@ Justthefacts; Submitted by
You're forgetting one very
You think because it is 'law'
They have not earned a penny
They have not earned a penny as they have not paid a penny of their own money in. There is no deduction taken from civil service paychecks to go into pension. They do not pay into the pension at all. It is simply an added benefit that an already bloated government provides to the civil service. Govt has to fund their pension obligation from the general funds as it does not come from salary holdbacks. These guys are double dipping plain and simple.
The pension fund is underfunded so they want as much money in their pockets as they can get before it goes bust.
"They have not earned a penny
I meant they have NOT really
I meant they have NOT really earned it etc...
You are right that they have
You are right that they have really "earned" it because it all basically contributed from public funds. But that is besides the point. That IS the way the entire civil service pension contribution system works. It is not unique to politicians. That really should change (seriously civil servants and politicians should be contributing just like in the private sector) but I doubt we will have see that.
Sorry - MLAs voting to allow
Sorry - MLAs voting to allow themselves to collect pensions for past terms while they are still employed as MLAs is very very wrong. The fact that 60 civil servants are allowed to do the same thing merely provides evidence of the extent of what is wrong with our government.
The fact that MLAs can pass laws to rip off the public purse does not make it moral for them to do so.
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