Drugs found in prison office
Posted on Thu, 02/16/2012 - 23:26 in Crime
(CNS): For the second time in a week ganja has been uncovered in staff offices inside Northward Prison. Sources told CNS that an undisclosed amount of the drug was found on Thursday morning in a packet hidden inside the shift commander's office. CNS also understands that several packets of ganja were recovered from the administrative office in the same building as the prison director’s office last week. Although it is not uncommon for drugs to be found inside the prison, in the possession of prisoners or in their cells as well as around the prison boundary this is the first time that news of the drug being found in staff offices has emerged from inside the facility.
CNS has contacted the RCIPS, the prison director and the chief officer in the portfolio of internal affairs but so far no one has confirmed the details of the prison drugs stash or how it came to be in the areas used by officers and managers.
As with most prison’s drug smuggling is a significant problem inside HMP Northward and officials have admitted that dealing with contraband from mobile phones to ganja is a constant battle. Prisoners are using inside the facility and freely admit the fact as evidence during the proceedings of a recent murder trial when a witness serving a sentence told the judge that his memory was faulty as a result of his regular ganja use which had persisted whilst he was incarcerated.
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Religious debate,
Religious debate, caymanian/status holder/expat debate, and legalization debate aside.....the simple fact of the matter is illegal drugs were found inside 2 prison officials quarters/possession and have they not been reprimanded to date. 5-10 years ago when CNS was a grassroots movement (no pun intended) this story would have been talked about amongst those only "in the know". Times and media outlets have advanced, the only ones who have yet to embrace this and move in a proactive manner is the RCIP. It's a shame because the simple layman/tourist/ and criminal element are each becoming increasingly aware that the lack of policing within that organization speaks volumes to their inability to protect those individual's responsible for paying their salaries. A major overhaul is needed within the police force ASAP no matter who's toes get stepped on/feelings hurt. Crime increases=tourism/financial sector leaves (it's all over because I for one don't see a maritime rescue saving our asses as it did in 1794)
Religious debate,
Religious debate, caymanian/status holder/expat debate, and legalization debate aside.....the simple fact of the matter is illegal drugs were found inside 2 prison officials quarters/possession and have they not been reprimanded to date. 5-10 years ago when CNS was a grassroots movement (no pun intended) this story would have been talked about amongst those only "in the know". Times and media outlets have advanced, the only ones who have yet to embrace this and move in a proactive manner is the RCIP. It's a shame because the simple layman/tourist/ and criminal element are each becoming increasingly aware that the lack of policing within that organization speaks volumes to their inability to protect those individual's responsible for paying their salaries. A major overhaul is
I have asuggestion. Whenever
I have asuggestion. Whenever an inmate or visitor is found in posession or ganja however small or insugnificent it may seem, a mandatory 6 month prison sentence is passed on whatever the prisoner is already serving. this will cut down use overnight. DO IT.
There's no question the
There's no question the criminals are in the prison, we just didn't expect them to be selling pot to other criminals. No surprises I guess!
If it could be found in the
If it could be found in the Church yard last week, why do you think it could not be found in the Prison Officers office? Look again, you might just find some in your kitchen in your 'Pot'.
Megalize Larijuana!
Megalize Larijuana! ?
Gegalize Manja!!!
dude..i totally forgot what our slogan was
I hope these officers are
I hope these officers are placed on immediate leave & their homes are searched as well. It would also be interesting to have a look at their bank accounts to see if any large deposits have been made that would be other than their salary.
Please take these two incidents serious, we have a hard enough time keeping the contraband coming over the fences and during visiting hours without officers breaching the law & code of conduct.
Please deal with these two cases and not drag this through the court system over year(s) while they will still be entitled to partial pay & full benefits.
Seems like you have
Seems like you have additional information as to who is responsible for the drugs being placed in these locations. Maybe the authorties need to speak with you or check you out as well.
If Caymanians were in charge
If Caymanians were in charge they would've been suspended immediately. It is surely no surprise, as this has been happening for years and nothing is done about it. They remain employed and are promoted as well.
Let some of the retired/fired Caymanian prison officers let you in on some of the strange dealings during their stint at HMP.
Sidelined Caymanian
Was it for official use? or
Was it for official use? or just prison supplies?
No surprise with this. And no
No surprise with this. And no surprise there is no reply from the relevant "Authorities".
Just read on another news
Just read on another news site that Daniel Greaves says: "Because of the amount of surveillance we have been conducting in the past few months, prisoners are looking for new ways and places to beat the system,"
IF this statement is correct, than why is it so easy to leave marijuana in official offices? Perhaps in these cases, the blame needs to be shifted from prisoners to the officers themselves. is there a case of officers providing drugs to prisoners and officers are getting paid?
I say, begin to strip search the officers!
It really amazes that the
It really amazes that the ganja was found in the Deputy & Director's office and they're not suspended??????
If I was a betting person would bet.....or check out history........if a caymanian or British national were in charge they'd be suspended.
Disgraceful!!!!!!!! they can reap the benefist fo secure job and not worry about their fellow police officers arresting them. what about the fact that it was found in their office??? not considered at all?
If the public refuses to stand up against this type of behaviour while the prison service expects more money (more offcers, even seeking to hire/pay $50k for a chaplin now).
Spend the money on prevention and aim to decrease the number of convicts and officers...sorry if they have to return home, can't hire their friends etc but sick of hearing about the waste of resources on inefficient officers!
Commish, Mr F. Mansderson, suggestion: Suspend the Director and Deputy.....stop showing favourtism because of their nationality. They clearly need to be held accountable for ganja being found in THEIR office, period!
Legalize the stuff, so
Legalize the stuff, so prisons could be half the size and less crime.
Sell it in government controlled locations, so the users are not getting in contact with the criminal scene, preventing them to "upgrade" to harddrugs.
It WILL significantly reduce crime.
Unfortunately we are dealing
Unfortunately we are dealing with a fanatic religous community here, so legalizing will never happen.
I think its more
I think its more generational...a waiting game for the next generation to wise-up on
how to solve problems where the current generation in power is satisfied with the cat-mouse waste of everybody's time...all to simply "look" like they are making progress.
How about you move to a less
How about you move to a less fanatical place and smoke yourself to death? You always have that as an option you know.
A true Christian speaks.
A true Christian speaks.
It appears bullying and
It appears bullying and suppression of opinions is alive and well in our "christian" nation, even in an anonymous forum. God bless each and everyone one of else...at the bars tonight or at the beach tomorrow.
Changing the conversation or conditions because you can't deal with the argument??? Sounds like a control freak in the making, and in your desperate attempt to sound clever, you still need to learn to stay on point, rather than regress to your terrible-2's. So let me know when you have something of substance...do not feel like babysitting a conversation anymore...
Smoke yourself to death? With
Smoke yourself to death? With marijuana? Good luck with that...
Legalize for Adults that can
Legalize for Adults that can make adult decisions, AND EDUCATE, so good decisions can be made.
I agree with regard to
I agree with regard to "softer" drugs like marijuana. However, the harder drugs like cocaine still need to be banned.
starting to sound like the
starting to sound like the "official" stash
Looks like it isn't only the
Looks like it isn't only the youth who blaze.... Island making a big deal over a plant.. lol grow up. think about it and make money from it dont throw away one of the world biggest agricultural plant for "saftey" most of the people who smoke in cayman are regular 9 - 5 people who live regular lives and do NOT cause harm to society...
you grow up...this is one of
you grow up...this is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read. you obviously smoke marijuana yourself!. it is not "a plant", it is an illegal drug and it is illegal for a reason. get some education! i have seen firsthand how this drug changes a person, turning them from being an intelligent person to a blubbering fool that can't string two sentences together! (not to mention a gang member and drug dealer).
hopefully you are not in any position to make any decisions for this country...if you ever are, please post it on CNS so I can start preparing to leave!
you need a good joint, good
you need a good joint, good person. but if you dont smoke, you can easily have a nice cup of tea, or a cookie...
you seem way too uptight to be enjoying life in any capicity. many high profile people smoke. on a regular basis.
one would be suprised.
Your reply only serves to
Your reply only serves to prove your own ignorance and that it is you who needs to get an education about this PLANT. You may have seen it "first-hand" but I suspect only in the odd individual - or perhaps that person told you it was pot and was really taking crack - which does cause the changes you describe.
Just as with alcohol and medications from your doctor or pharmacist, each individual who uses it is affected in a different way, and some have very low tolerance levels and can't handle it at all. There are plenty of very educated doctors, lawyers, accountants and people in every occupation and walk of life smoke pot. Many are now in their forties and above, and have been smoking since teenagers. They are all intelligent, and managed to obtain their qualifications and excel in their chosen professions despite smoking pot. They are not gang members or drug dealers and they can probably string two sentences together better than you or me, or anyone else who does not use "drugs".
I am surprised you don't already know this. Your views seem a tad extreme to say the least!
13.09 You are rignt in one
13.09 You are rignt in one word that it is illegal in Cayman, but I dont know what to think of you, when you say it is not a plant. MARIJUANA IS A PLANT CREATED BY GOD, USED BY MANY KINGS INCLUDING SOLOMON AND DAVID. Read why the Marijuana plant became illegal!! . It was only because of the discovery of the silk by a white European man. Hemp, which was then grown, with the Marijuana was used and cultivated and sold by the black man and it was was then made illegal. GO AND SEARCH UP THE REASON WHY MARIJUANA BECAME ILLEGAL.
Alcohol is much more dangerous drug than ganja. Alcohol turns people into a real idiot, no matter whether it is a beer, vine, or whisky. it makes you want to fight, kill your wife, run your children out of the house, cheat and drive like crazy.
I have never in all of my life heard of a weed man doing these things. I do no smoke it, but sorry Pal I have to defend it, because I smoked it before and know what it feels like. The weed will make you speak slower, less agressive, eat plenty, laugh alot and give thanks and praises to Jah. God is recognised more my the Weed man than the alcohol drinker. Obviously all you know about the Herb is what you think. because anyone who use herb can safely say, it does not make you agressive. I just wish those people who knows nothing about Weed, would take a draw then later on take a shot of whisky, and then write on this News Service, saying which of the two make you feel like a idiot.
Does it now grow? So does
Does it now grow?
So does alcohol and bet you take some of that.
If you think that God is
If you think that God is going to judge people over a spliff or a shot of whiskey, then think on.
Generally fictional
Generally fictional characters don't do anything.
A truly scientific
A truly scientific observation. "...is not a plant." ??? This is why society can't mature past the obvious half the time.
Get an outside agency to do a
Get an outside agency to do a proper random drugs test on every inmate and add a couple fo years to the sentence of any positives.
and officers as well.
and officers as well.
Officers for sure. The ganja
Officers for sure. The ganja was found in the offices. So why have tunnel vision. Start with searching and testing the officers. As another writer suggested check bank accounts and property owned. Also check money being sent overseas.
Poor old Dwight and Donny the
Poor old Dwight and Donny the LEGACY of INIQUITY?
Why is it 'Not Uncommon' to
Why is it 'Not Uncommon' to find drugs in a goverment administered facility? If it isnt being grown in the prison, then there are only two ways it can get to be in the prison: The staff or the inmates visitors.
Third way and more common:
Third way and more common: friends or family members of the inmates throw it over the fence in the middle of the night. And prison officials are aware of this.
Thats not surprising, Someone
Thats not surprising, Someone thats in prison told me that they smokes weed in front of the guards.
A few years ago I was told by
A few years ago I was told by someone that went to the prison to play football that the prisoners who were spectators were standing around the field smoking weed while the prison officers stood there and did nothing.
Guards smoke it with them.
Guards smoke it with them.
Howwww longgggg has this
Howwww longgggg has this beeeen going onnn everybody knows what has been going on at the Northward prison for a very long time, except Gov't but the previous "administration" was always blaming prisoners and covering up alot of $%#@ New management has come and some are going to find themselves in right mess ! As Sizzla would say solid as a rock they can't stop up now! RIP Sabrina
Real reason why Caymanians
Real reason why Caymanians are not hired to work in the prison. Now is the time to weed out the expats who have always been the cause of drugs entering the prison. When the prison guard was killed in his house years ago, I watched him many times taking his strools to collect his stach. I guess he was Caymanian. Just a thought.
The true Caymanian is always penalised and sidelined in his country for the people whose background is always impeccable and we noth ing about. Are you listening!!
What the H is a "strool" or a
What the H is a "strool" or a "stach" ?????
That is why when they come
That is why when they come out they are not getting any better.
Wonder how the Dep Gov and
Wonder how the Dep Gov and Chief Officer will defend this one? I agreed fully with the Complaint Commissioner and her findings about the strip search by the prison officer but as per the norm in this country, it seems that despite the evidence she put forward in support of her findings, other interpretations and semantics came into play and it will likely be brushed under the carpet. Regardless of how it goes, cudos for her standing up and doing the right thing!
........And so why has no one
........And so why has no one been fired over this yet????
I don't know, maybe they want
I don't know, maybe they want to do something really unconventional like have an investigation first.
They good at "investigating".
They good at "investigating". How is that real estate investigating going on? You know the one with Stan and Mac? Thought we forgot it, eh?
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