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Is the new emergency shelter project on Cayman Brac money well spent?

Posted on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 16:02 in
Yes, we need more shelters on Cayman Brac and the private rooms is a good idea
12% (43 votes)
The shelter is needed but the "Hurricane Hilton" plans include too much luxury
16% (55 votes)
The money should have been spent increasing shelter space on Grand Cayman
9% (33 votes)
We don't have the money for any new projects right now
63% (222 votes)
Total votes: 353

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This among the all the others

Submitted by IRON CLAD (not verified) on Sun, 04/17/2011 - 10:14.

This among the all the others such as the paving in the Brac and in West Bay are or would be an UTTER WASTE OF MONEY WE DON'T HAVE.

I SAY NO NO NO to the UNNECESSARY Emergency Shelter on the Brac.

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"UNNECESSARY Emergency"?

Submitted by student (not verified) on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 15:42.

"UNNECESSARY Emergency"? lol... I can't fathom how those 2 words can go together. I've never known of an emergency situation that has been UNNECESSARY.

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Subject, predicate,

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 19:25.

Subject, predicate, object.

It's probably confusing to you if they don" appear in hat order. UNNECESSARY describes the shelter, as in "it is an unnecessary shelter". Emergency also describes the type of shelter, as in "it is an emergency shelter" or "it is an animal shelter".

It looks like the re-named building is the only legacy left to Layman Scott.

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I can see someone needs to

Submitted by Gx (not verified) on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 12:51.
I can see someone needs to learn more about grammer... He still has a point! There is no way you can say that an emergency shelter is not necessary.
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Wasting money on another

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/29/2011 - 09:31.

Wasting money on another building in Cayman Brac when people are struggling to make ends meet is a public disgrace.  Why aren't they spending these millions to help small businesses and create jobs??  

This debate should not be about whether they create one more shelter with or without private rooms.  We have had enough hurricanes to prove that there is plenty enough shelter space already.  The issue is how can they justify wasting public dollars on this when we so desperately need to grow the Brac economy and improve our standard of living - EVERYDAY - not just for the one week when a hurricane comes!

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***** I recall after the

Submitted by Libertarian (not verified) on Thu, 03/31/2011 - 08:18.
***** I recall after the aftermath of Ivan and Paloma, serious hurricanes, it wasn't a "waste" when people's roof tops were blown off by category 4 - 5 winds to have shelter space. I don't recall it ever being a waste to have room enough for over 3000 people that was flown to the Brac for "relief" after Grand Cayman was hit so hard from hurricane Ivan! Are you suggesting that we just cross our fingers and hope that another major hurricane doesn't hit us again, because we don't have enough shelter space this time to deal with the mass population here that could go homeless? We talk so much about monies being "wasted" on this and on that, but do you seriously think it is being wasted upon our self-preservation and protection? lol... and how can "small businesses" thrive if you don't have people who are alive to be in them to make them thrive??? My lad, the people's preservation from natural disasters and imminent threats must come first! We can't sit down and wait for the last minute and just hope and pray. Action/Spending for such reasons are necessary! *****
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You have confirmed my

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/31/2011 - 11:26.
You have confirmed my position that we already have the shelters and they have been proven as effective and sufficient during both Ivan and Paloma. No one was without shelter. I rest my case. Meanwhile, due to lack of investment in developing the Brac economy families are struggling to make ends meet every day.
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Ummm know one was without

Submitted by Anonymous1 (not verified) on Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:08.
Ummm know one was without shelter? Where you got that from?
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 "Ummm know one was without

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 09:50.

 "Ummm know one was without shelter? Where you got that from?"

If they didn't have shelter, they would have been dead.

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In my opinion, we can infer

Submitted by jd (not verified) on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 16:07.
In my opinion, we can infer from the comments that: -People who live on Grand Cayman are JEALOUS of the fact that Cayman Brac gets a fancy new hurricane shelter, AND THEY DON'T. -That people have no problem with how the Shetty Hospital and George Town berthing facilities extension, which cost into the hundred of millions of dollars is going to be paid for but its a big deal when Cayman Brac gets anything. -The construction of the 'Hurricane Hilton' is going to be critisised now until a good CAT5 hurricane hits. I bet that then the place is going to be full of people from Grand Cayman trying to get a room at 'Hurricane Hilton'. I rest my case.
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Surplus shelter space - we

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 18:24.

Surplus shelter space - we already have more hurricane shelter space than we could ever fill in the Brac.  If the UDP has millions of dollars to spend they should be honest enough to spend on the projects we need not the ones that suit the Deputy Premier's personal agenda.  

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The way i see it, this

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 21:29.
The way i see it, this shelter is for the people of the Cayman Islands, and it will be money well spent, as one comment stated, the Grand Caymanians were flying over to the Brac for shelter after Ivan. Just stop the hate for your deputy Premier, I guess you cant' handle the fact she was holds this position and not you.
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please... why are you making

Submitted by sonia (non-partisan) (not verified) on Fri, 04/29/2011 - 15:25.
please... why are you making this into a party issue thing! Building a well facilitated shelter with rooms that can be used for emergency scenarios is just the right thing to do! I don't care if the deputy premier supports it! It is just he right thing to do!
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Your comment is evidence that

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 12:50.
Your comment is evidence that this is all about personality and not what is right or needed for these islands.
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In a shelter private rooms

Submitted by bracker (not verified) on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:44.
In a shelter private rooms are a good idea, because they can be used for emergency situations. I honestly don't believe that an MLA is going to use the rooms for their personal convenience like a living bedroom. Such allegations to me is not realistic. You can't have a mere hall as a shelter, you need private rooms as well! Also I am from Cayman Brac and I am hearing alot of people complaining about the cost of this building. Now ya... you can complain about that, but not about a shelter having some private rooms therein. It just shows you that you have some people so blinded by party politics and this is sad for Cayman. I just have to say, it is when another hurricane hits us that is when people will start to fully appreciate having shelters; especially, this one on the bluff, the highest elevation in the Cayman Islands. I recall the stories from the 1932 hurricane how the only survivors were those who took refuge on the bluff. Can't we learn from history?
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Are there private rooms in

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 14:35.

Are there private rooms in any of the other shelters in the Cayman Islands?  I don't think so.  So, if all the other residents of the Cayman Islands only have "a mere hall as a shelter", why can't Brackers?  Why do Brackers need private rooms? 

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You don't sound too

Submitted by sandra (not verified) on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 08:19.
You don't sound too intelligent to me, you seem to be implying that because Grand Cayman does not have private rooms, then all other shelters should not have it as well. You must not have went through hurricane Ivan or participated in the management of a designated shelter. In your faulty reasoning, you seem to not mention the rooms being used for counseling, medical, child care, and emergency purposes.
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Sandra.  I was here for

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 13:58.

Sandra.  I was here for Hurricane Ivan, thank you.

I was not a Shelter Manager but I do know that many people then, now and in the future on Grand Cayman (and elsewhere) made do (and will make do) without private rooms and semi-private bathrooms.

I know how counseling, medical care, child care and emergency needs were met in shelters across Grand Cayman and I can tell you that the people here managed just fine.  Was it entirely comfortable?  No.  But we managed.

What bugs me is that you seem to think that private rooms are an absolute necessity in times of a hurricane.  You must be from West Bay and used to having expensive, unnecessary things provided for you.

Prove to me the necessity of private rooms in a hurricane shelter and I'll change my tune. 

 

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"I was not a Shelter Manager"

Submitted by Sandra (not verified) on Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:22.
"I was not a Shelter Manager" Well maybe you should be one. At least you would be a bit qualified to not just know from your head... but have at least a little "experience" as to what it is like to run a shelter! And West Bay district??? Whether I am from West Bay, East End, George Town, Cayman Brac, or outer space, this certainly has nothing to do with the issue - unless you love to discriminate and pre-judge people from where they are from! Think of a hospital without partitioned rooms! Maybe you need to THINK thats your problem!
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Friend, it is a personality

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 12:57.
Friend, it is a personality thing. People don't like the shelter because they don't like who is the Deputy Premier. That's the God honest truth! Since she took Rolston's place they have dislike her to the bone and every good thing she attempts to do is criticized.
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Tough luck, The God's honest

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/28/2011 - 21:39.
Tough luck, The God's honest truth, we hate ourselves too much. Maybe if she was of a different ethnicity. God help us, i have never seen so much hate for our sisters and brothers. Let them get on with their jobs, which one of you are perfect? Since she is critised for everything she does,why don't you try running for her seat and see how far you will get?
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***** Cayman we have 4

Submitted by Libertarian (not verified) on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 08:29.
***** Cayman we have 4 possible enemies against the public: 1. Our own Government (whether UK and/or Local); 2. Government allied with an elite, corporation, or big business entity; 3. Criminals; and the fourth is not spoken much about until incidents like the earthquake in Japan occurs - and that is, Natural Disasters! Folks, maybe not this hurricane shelter, but I am 100% for having a shelter from a natural disaster despite it being a PPM or UDP initiative!!! The Bluff and the elevations in North Side and East End, are ideal locations for properly built shelters. I would like government to consider shelters supported by pillars, elevated enough to avoid massive waves, and to at least implement alarm systems around the island to warn the public of tsunami waves. I think not having these mechanisms in place, but wasting monies on fixing roads, etc., is to my estimation shameful. It is the role of government to protect its people from natural disasters! We just can't become blind to party politics, personalities, and the "who" that is behind such projects when it comes to our self-preservation, which should always be our first priority. ***** Libertarian
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agreed... we can also spend

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:30.
agreed... we can also spend more money on fixing up or maintaining the ones we have now
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